What is NHB all about? - Ultimate Jujitsu

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steve Resident 217 posts	Monday 19th May 2003 at 00:26 What is competition NHB all about? Is it really 'no holds barred' or are there some rules for safety? e.g. if you were in a rear mount surely you would'nt be able to deliver an otoshi-empi (lowering elbob strike) to the base of the skull cause this would break their neck & probably kill them for sure? So what restrictions are there and in what circumstances would a ref step in and stop the action? I've trained with guys in the past who could smash their foreheads through a stack of roof tiles, or strike their hands (sto) through a house brick - surely they would have to be restricted? Just wondering cause Angry got me intrigued when he said he prefers to fight 'no gi NHB'. aaaa "Its not the size of the dog i
Robsco 1319 posts	Monday 19th May 2003 at 01:45 Well obviously there's some rules, but Ross is your man for all that. If people can smash through bricks, then good luck to em! btw Ross, I was reading the report on CageWarriors abt last weekend, and about the guy that got the triangle with his opponent trying to get to the ropes or whatever. According to the report, he was gonna slam, and that's why you stepped in. So is slamming illegal? I thought it was fine, but that report is a little confusing. --------- Robsco! 'I'm sure your style is impressive on other planets, however, your weak link is that this is Earth' The Admin Guy
Angry Regular 88 posts	Monday 19th May 2003 at 14:50 no i stopped that fight because he stood up and tried to jump backwards out of the ring, can anyone say "JACKASS" so i stopped and warned him of being a silly billy. steve there are rules yes: these are the UFC rules, different shows use different rules: The rules of the UFC The ufc the biggest and best-known mma event, in the world will be the subject of my project. The ufc fighters compete in what is known as the octagon, an engineered fence used by the ufc. Once thought to be a gimmick, the octagonal shape gives structural support. The octagon is 30 feet in diameter and stands 5ft 6in. These are the 2002 Ultimate Fighting Championship rules, defined, decided and approved by the Nevada State athletic commission. UFC Rules As defined by the Nevada State Commission USA 1. Butting with the head (could cause concussion for both opponents) 2. Eye gouging (any form of attack on the eyes could cause permanent loss of sight) 3. Biting (causes transfer of bacteria) 4. Hair Pulling (Unfair leverage advantage) 5. Fish Hooking (can cause permanent damage or lacerations to sensitive areas) 6. Groin attacks of any kind (can cause prostrate cancer or hernias) 7. Putting a finger into any orifice or into any cut or laceration on an opponent (spreads infection and bacteria) 8. Small joint manipulation (can cause permanent damage of weakened joints) 9. Striking to the spine or back of the head (can cause permanent spinal damage) 10. Striking downward using the point of the elbow (can cause serious lacerations) 11. Throat strikes of any kind, including, without limitation, grabbing the trachea (can cause asphyxiation) 12. Clawing, pinching or twisting the flesh (causes unnecessary lacerations) 13. Grabbing the clavicle (damage to the clavicle can cause respiratory problems) 14. Kicking the head of a grounded opponent (can cause permanent head injury and brain trauma 15. Kneeing the head of a grounded opponent (as in question 14)) 16. Stomping a grounded opponent (can cause unnecessary organ damage and or injury) 17. Kicking to the kidney with the heel (as in question 16) 18. Spiking an opponent to the canvas on his head or neck (can cause neck and spinal damage) 19. Throwing an opponent out of the ring or fenced area (unnecessary damage as a result of fall or landing) 20. Holding the shorts or gloves of an opponent (unfair leverage advantage) 21. Spitting at an opponent (transfer of bacteria and or temporary blindness) 22. Engaging in an unsports-man-like conduct that causes an injury to an opponent (standards must be set out to maintain the quality of the promotion and the sport.) 23. Holding the ropes or the fence (unfair leverage) 24. Using abusive language in the ring or fenced area (as in question 22) 25. Attacking the opponent on or during the break (as in question 22) 26. Attacking an opponent who is under the care of the referee (opponent not being in a position to defend himself and or as in question 22) 27. Attacking an opponent after the bell has sounded the end of the period of fighting (as in question 26) 28. Flagrantly disregarding the instructions of the referee (as in question 26) 29. Timidly, including, without limitation, avoiding contact with an opponent, intentionally or consistently dropping the mouthpiece or faking an injury (as in question 22) 30. Interference by the corner (as in question 22) 31. Throwing in the towel during competition (can cause distraction to the official) Both the Nevada State athletic commission and Zuffa owners of the UFC approve these rules. These rules are set in place to protect fighters and fans, to keep the action going and to maintain the quality of the promotion and the sport. also steve nhb is the ultimate sport, judo is ok, bjj is ok but nhb is the future of fighting sports. also hitting a brick is easy, why hit a brick, like the guy from bloodsport says after jean claude smashing the brick -- "bricks dont hit back" anyone can hit a brick but it takes skill to hit a moving target thats trying to hurt you.. "Bad weather all the time" "Bad weather all the time"
steve Resident 217 posts	Monday 19th May 2003 at 19:25 Cheers for the comprehensive reply - I now have a proper feel for it. I take it when you said 'taken from my project' you have covered the development of UFC as part of your 'individual' study bit of your sports & leisure management college course....good on ya! I bet its somat they have'nt had in before and if its being accomodated then its a good sign that NHB type fighting maybe should become mainstream alongside boxing and judo, if the following is strong and the participants have the dedication why not? The bit about the brick breaking was not an attempt at being silly, I was eluding towards the fact that with someone in a restrained position beneath you on the floor, e.g. rear mount, a good solid 'sto' type strike (single point focused blow with the 'boney' part of the wrist) to say ribcage, clavicle or even shoulder joint or upper arm bone could cause a serious break. p.s. Andy hasn't responded to my query about the Neil Adam's thing, maybe hasn't read my post...do you know the details and would we be able to attend? aaaa "Its not the size of the dog i
Angry Regular 88 posts	Tuesday 20th May 2003 at 13:17 dude i seriously doubt anyone under the mount could pull of one of these power strikes, especially when getting hit or choked. maybe im wrong. no i know nothing of this dave adams fellow "Bad weather all the time" "Bad weather all the time"
RMJA Newbie 8 posts	Tuesday 22nd April 2003 at 06:20 Hey, those 31 no-rules, give or take a couple, kind of define the reality of what Jujutsu is. or perhaps, depending upon where you are, what Jujutsu should be. RMJA RMJA RMJA
Angry Regular 88 posts	Friday 25th April 2003 at 00:08 u kinda killed the thread "Bad weather all the time" "Bad weather all the time"

no i stopped that fight because he stood up and tried to jump backwards out of the ring, can anyone say "JACKASS" so i stopped and warned him of being a silly billy.

steve there are rules yes:
these are the UFC rules, different shows use different rules:
The rules of the UFC
The ufc the biggest and best-known mma event, in the world will be the subject of my project. The ufc fighters compete in what is known as the octagon, an engineered fence used by the ufc. Once thought to be a gimmick, the octagonal shape gives structural support. The octagon is 30 feet in diameter and stands 5ft 6in.
These are the 2002 Ultimate Fighting Championship rules, defined, decided and approved by the Nevada State athletic commission.
UFC Rules
As defined by the Nevada State Commission USA
1. Butting with the head (could cause concussion for both opponents)
2. Eye gouging (any form of attack on the eyes could cause permanent loss of sight)
3. Biting (causes transfer of bacteria)
4. Hair Pulling (Unfair leverage advantage)
5. Fish Hooking (can cause permanent damage or lacerations to sensitive areas)
6. Groin attacks of any kind (can cause prostrate cancer or hernias)
7. Putting a finger into any orifice or into any cut or laceration on an opponent (spreads infection and bacteria)
8. Small joint manipulation (can cause permanent damage of weakened joints)
9. Striking to the spine or back of the head (can cause permanent spinal damage)
10. Striking downward using the point of the elbow (can cause serious lacerations)
11. Throat strikes of any kind, including, without limitation, grabbing the trachea (can cause asphyxiation)
12. Clawing, pinching or twisting the flesh (causes unnecessary lacerations)
13. Grabbing the clavicle (damage to the clavicle can cause respiratory problems)
14. Kicking the head of a grounded opponent (can cause permanent head injury and brain trauma
15. Kneeing the head of a grounded opponent (as in question 14))
16. Stomping a grounded opponent (can cause unnecessary organ damage and or injury)
17. Kicking to the kidney with the heel (as in question 16)
18. Spiking an opponent to the canvas on his head or neck (can cause neck and spinal damage)
19. Throwing an opponent out of the ring or fenced area (unnecessary damage as a result of fall or landing)
20. Holding the shorts or gloves of an opponent (unfair leverage advantage)
21. Spitting at an opponent (transfer of bacteria and or temporary blindness)
22. Engaging in an unsports-man-like conduct that causes an injury to an opponent (standards must be set out to maintain the quality of the promotion and the sport.)
23. Holding the ropes or the fence (unfair leverage)
24. Using abusive language in the ring or fenced area (as in question 22)
25. Attacking the opponent on or during the break (as in question 22)
26. Attacking an opponent who is under the care of the referee (opponent not being in a position to defend himself and or as in question 22)
27. Attacking an opponent after the bell has sounded the end of the period of fighting (as in question 26)
28. Flagrantly disregarding the instructions of the referee (as in question 26)
29. Timidly, including, without limitation, avoiding contact with an opponent, intentionally or consistently dropping the mouthpiece or faking an injury (as in question 22)
30. Interference by the corner (as in question 22)
31. Throwing in the towel during competition (can cause distraction to the official)
Both the Nevada State athletic commission and Zuffa owners of the UFC approve these rules. These rules are set in place to protect fighters and fans, to keep the action going and to maintain the quality of the promotion and the sport.

also steve nhb is the ultimate sport, judo is ok, bjj is ok but nhb is the future of fighting sports.

also hitting a brick is easy, why hit a brick, like the guy from bloodsport says after jean claude smashing the brick -- "bricks dont hit back"
anyone can hit a brick but it takes skill to hit a moving target thats trying to hurt you..

"Bad weather all the time"

Cheers for the comprehensive reply - I now have a proper feel for it.

I take it when you said 'taken from my project' you have covered the development of UFC as part of your 'individual' study bit of your sports & leisure management college course....good on ya! I bet its somat they have'nt had in before and if its being accomodated then its a good sign that NHB type fighting maybe should become mainstream alongside boxing and judo, if the following is strong and the participants have the dedication why not?

The bit about the brick breaking was not an attempt at being silly, I was eluding towards the fact that with someone in a restrained position beneath you on the floor, e.g. rear mount, a good solid 'sto' type strike (single point focused blow with the 'boney' part of the wrist) to say ribcage, clavicle or even shoulder joint or upper arm bone could cause a serious break.

p.s. Andy hasn't responded to my query about the Neil Adam's thing, maybe hasn't read my post...do you know the details and would we be able to attend?

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